O jornal desportivo alemão 11 Freund
conseguiu chegar à fala com os responsáveis do Football Leaks
que têm tornado públicas as negociatas do futebol europeu, nomeadamente as que incluem intermediários e passes de jogadores repartidos, os famosos TPO. A entrevista foi feita por mail e está dividida em três partes. A terceira é impressionante! Parece que a transparência é um problema para a Doyen e para o Sporting CP.
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Parte 1 »We’ve got more than 500 GB of documents«
Who is behind »Football leaks«?
We prefer not to go
in to such details. Our project is shaking everything from top to
bottom, so as you can guess we are creating a lot of enemies, powerful
people within the business. And for them transparency in football is a
Reports say you are a group from Portugal. Is that correct?
Yes, we are from Portugal.
When was your organization »founded«?
decided to start all this back in September 2015, and our main goal at
the time was to expose all the lies and controversies within Portuguese
clubs. Last summer’s transfer market was the most intense ever in
Portugal, there were some shocking transfers, for example Jorge Jesus
move from Benfica to Sporting, controversy and many unanswered
questions, mostly involving Sporting Lisbon. We decided to help the
people understand what really happened so we focused on unmasking that.
And fortunately we were able to go even further thanks to our sources.
Some sites compared you to the likes of Edward Snowden
and other whistleblowers. What do you think of it and what are your
All we want is transparency in the sport we all
love. Some clubs have no respect for the fans, everything is a taboo;
the players wages, transfer contracts, secret clauses, intermediates,
etc. The clubs hide everything. In our opinion NBA is a good example of
transparency, there are no secrets. Everyone knows how much a specific
player or coach earns, and they themselves do not hide it. That’s what
Contracts and agreements between two
parties are not intended to be shared for the public – whether it is in
football or elsewhere.
If everyone would think like that
there would be no Wikileaks, Luxleaks, Offshore leaks, etc. Everyone
would still live in a lie… Football is losing a lot of credibility, the
total lack of transparency and the huge amount of undisclosed fees are
disrespectful for the fans, so someone had to do something. Fortunately
by putting these files online we are finally making an impact across the
world, and people are starting to discuss more about those topics. We
all want the same. A more transparent a credible sport.
It seems that Third-Party-Ownership is your main topic. If so, how come?
our opinion there is huge lack of information surrounding those
Investment funds. Their existence inside football raises important
issues in terms of potential conflicts of interests and match fixing.
And of course there’s the risk of money laundering and other criminal
activities. Those funds only have a financial interest, which clearly
leads to contractual instability between football clubs and players.
Is there any proof for money laundering yet?
We don’t want to accuse anyone without enough evidence, but, for example, Doyen’s structure seems prone to money laundering.
gained popularity for the first time when you published contracts of
Doyen and Twente. Is it an emblematic case of TPO-rule violation?
that’s an emblematic case. It shows the damaging interferences of TPO
in football clubs policy together with a criminal mismanagement and an
irresponsible president. What Doyen Sports do is totally criminal and
harmful for the clubs. If you analyze all their Economic Rights
Participation Agreement (ERPA), not only with Twente, but with several
clubs, you will see they take advantage of cash-strapped clubs and
impose unfair terms on the clubs. That’s what we can call ‘loan
sharking’. Nevertheless those agreements probably breach the FIFA
Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players article 18bis. Most of
the clubs involved in those agreements can be in deep trouble and
possibly face a FIFA sanction.
In one document it is
said that Twente had to compensate 50 percent of the refused offer for a
player whose transfer rights shares lay in the hands of Doyen. But how
would Doyen find out about a certain offer and it`s details for a
Because usually Doyen is the one searching for
offers, and when they present it to the club, they have no other choice
than to sell the player. Doyen’s contracts usually contain aggressive
clausules, similar to loansharking.
So investors could have actually put clubs under pressure to sell the players?
that’s common, and happens behind the curtain. Investors place the
players in certain clubs with the promise that in 1 or 2 years they can
move them again to bigger clubs. That’s profitable for the investment
funds and their fellow agents.
The selling of transfer
rights to private investors often is an „open secret“ in football. How
does this openness correspond with the prohibition of exactly that
action in international football regulations?
Third Party Investment deals are still happening behind the curtain but
nowadays disguised as »Scouting Agreements« and »Intermediary
Agreements«. There’s still a lot of money circulating behind the
curtain, and not even FIFA has the slight idea of what’s going on. The
growing influence of player agents, and the use of offshore corporations
continues to be very problematic.
Could you tell us
how much Doyen has earned from its engagement and share investments in
transfer rights during the past five years?
More than 70 million euros, according to their internal documents.
Parte 2 »The start of a new era in football«
Why did you decide to publish documents and information on a blog and not provide information to the media?
media usually ignore incriminating informations regarding specific
football clubs. The lobby is too big, and even the Portuguese Football
Federation and the Portuguese League are accessary to TPO deals, similar
to the ones involving Twente in the Netherlands.
Creating a website
was the best solution, a huge amount of people found out about it, and
social networks did the rest.
In publishing documents one could say you violated the bank secrecy. How you would justify these publications?
the past four years Doyen Sports was surrounded by mystery, they rarely
talked to the press and they never showed any sign of transparency. No
one knew nothing about their TPO deals, the secret clauses and mostly
importantly no one knew who was the real investor. As everybody can see
Doyen is a clear offshore structure using trustees to hide the ultimate
Publishing Bank Statements is just another way to
help FIFA in their compliance activities and the Malta Financial
Services Authority in their investigation against Doyen’s irregular
Why don't you just contact Fifa then? Why did you choose a platform?
everyone knows FIFA was affected by a huge scandal, so at that time we
were not sure if sending documents to the FIFA would really make a
difference. A platform surely was the best solution in our opinion, but
of course we can directly collaborate with FIFA if they ask to.
You were accused of hacking information and documents. What do you make of that?
made the accusations. The same people that lied and deceived the Dutch
Football Federation, and the same people that said the secret TPO
document was false. That says it all about Doyen Sports and their
So did you hack information and documents?
not, and we can give you an example. Doyen Sports accused us of
perpetrating a cyber attack, and in a statement (available on their
website) they said that on October 4, 2015, they filled a criminal
participation to the police regarding that matter.
But this past weeks
we published documents about Doyen dating of November and December. So
how could that be a cyberattack?!
The key question is
how do you get to your information. The president of Sporting said you
acted on behalf of arch rivals Benfica. Could you deny having bonds to
officials of other clubs or pursuing an agenda of a club/party with
Yes, we have no agenda. We are just
fighting for the sake of the sport, but we can’t change anything on our
own. Fortunately the Bale’s leak took us to a wider audience and now a
lot more people has got the chance to read all the controversial
documents involving clubs and investments funds.
Are there any bonds to officials of other clubs?
No, we are totally independent.
published agreements between Tottenham and Real that showed that Bale
was the most expensive player. Can you tell us how your work has changed
after the impact of the Bale revelations?
First of all
our mailbox is a mess at this moment. We’ve been receiving hundreds of
emails, and that’s surely a good thing. We are finally making an impact
across the world and we hope that’s the start of a new era of
transparency in football.
The leak concerning Mesut Özil was as startling as the Bale one. But what was the reason for you to publish it? Because there were no revelation concerning investors as far as I know.
We don’t only publish contracts revealing links to investors, we also want to expose secret clauses and undisclosed fees.
Parte 3 »They want to silence us«
Have Fifa, national football associations or the clubs connected
to the publications tried to get in contact with you or even threaten
On the contrary, FIFA welcomes all those revelations.
And we were happy to hear that FIFA TMS General Manager Mark Goddard
checks our website, and uses the information for their compliance
activities. We only had problems with Sporting Lisbon and Doyen Sports,
looks like transparency was problematic for them…
It is said that the both of them are trying to sue you. Did police or lawyers approach you?
don’t trust the Portuguese authorities, in fact we know things in
Portugal always run in a very dirty way when there is a lot of money
involved. Doyen’s influence is very powerful, and we know in fact the
investigation proceedings have been compromised.
How do you know?
sources found that evidence, and we know about secret meetings, between
members of the Portuguese Police and that agency, in Lisbon. Rogério
Bravo, a Portuguese Police Chief Inspector is a very good friend of
Nélio Lucas (Doyen’s CEO) and he was pressuring the Attorney General's
Office to share all the details about the investigation. In fact Doyen
is only using the police investigation to get to us, and they hired a
private intelligence agency (Marclay Associates) to do the dirty job.
What does »dirty job« mean?
means they are on the field searching everywhere as they want to stop
this at any cause. The Big Bosses in Turkey and Kazakhstan are really
angry, and they want to silence us as fast as possible, so people can
understand we are facing huge risks.
Now it becomes complicated. Why Turkey and Kazakhstan? Who do you mean?
bosses of the Doyen Group - the Arif family, one of the richest
families in Turkey, with ties to Donald Trump and the Turkish
According to some reports Tevfik Arif was once arrested on a
yacht in 2010 by Turkish police investigating a prostitution ring.
Daily Mirror reported that you were blackmailing Doyen's Nelio Lucas
via mail. It says you demanded money for holding back documents.We
never contacted Nélio Lucas. And don’t you think that is strange that
only Doyen Sports claims they were victims of blackmailing?!
sounds like a really desperate attempt to discredit Football Leaks.
The report says you used the name Artem Louzov in mails. Is that true?
But we recognize that name. We’ve received some strange emails from
someone called Artem Lobuzov in early December. He said and I can quote
»You are very good. I want to buy your information you have on sports -
how much do you want?« »I can offer around 650k Euros«. We obviously
refused such an offer.
Did you ever delete documents and if so, why?
course not, in fact we’ve got now more than 500 GB of documents. We
have thousands of documents, and we are still reviewing the information.
So you plan to publish more documents in the nearer future?
You can expect many new revelations, about transfers and investment funds.